Recode Decode: Gene Sperling

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2020

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Former Clinton and Obama economic advisor Gene Sperling talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest book, Economic Dignity, and how the COVID-19 pandemic is changing attitudes toward essential labor and compensation. He predicts that unemployment could top 10 percent for several years to come, and evaluates the federal government's response to the crisis so far, explaining what he would tell President Trump if he were still in the White House today. Sperling also talks about the need for laws to protect gig workers, why the Obama administration didn't stop Big Tech from growing in size and power when it had the chance, and the need for antitrust action against companies like Facebook. Featuring: Gene Sperling (@genebsperling), author, Economic Dignity Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:25.0	I'm Gideon Litchfield. I'm the editor-in-chief of Wired.
0:30.0	And I'm Lauren Good. I'm a senior writer at Wired.
0:33.0	We're making a new show. Have a nice future.
0:37.0	I'm more have a nice future, question mark.
0:40.0	It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.
0:44.0	We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.
0:49.0	We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face about the challenges they're creating and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.
0:57.0	So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.
1:03.0	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode.
1:06.0	You may know me as an optimistic pessimist.
1:09.0	I hope for the best. I'm prepared to live like we're in Mad Max Fury Road.
1:13.0	But in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Recode D-code, a podcast about power change and the people you need to know were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
1:22.0	Today in the red chair is Gene Spurling, the former White House economic adviser under President Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
1:29.0	While he was shaping economic policy in the Obama White House, he disagreed with many of his peers and thought we weren't paying attention to the bigger picture of America's economic future.
1:39.0	So he's written a new book outlining what the future should look like. It's called Economic Dignity.
1:44.0	It couldn't be here with better timing. He was a guest on pivot. Gene, welcome to Recode D-code.
1:49.0	Well, thank you Cara. I'm honored to be here.
1:51.0	Thanks. Well, this is essentially like pivot, but less Scott say and crazy things.
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