Recode Decode: Jon Meacham

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Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Historian and bestselling author Jon Meacham talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new podcast Hope Through History, which shows how Americans endured crises such as the Great Depression and the 1918 flu pandemic and came out the other side as a stronger nation. Meacham says there's no guarantee that the coronavirus pandemic will be resolved in the same way as the moments he has studied, but that it's a mistake to imagine that the past was a simpler "fairy tale" time without comparable struggles. He also talks about the politicization of our current crisis, how it has accelerated other problems in our society, and what a Joe Biden victory in November would mean for the future of the country. Plus: What is Meacham writing next, and what past presidency most resembles our own? (It's not Andrew Jackson's.) Featuring: Jon Meacham (@jmeacham), host, Hope Through History Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Gideon Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.
0:02.6	And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.
0:05.2	We're making a new show.
0:06.5	Have a nice future.
0:09.0	I'm more have a nice future, question mark.
0:12.5	It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.
0:16.9	We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.
0:20.6	We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,
0:24.9	and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.
0:29.3	So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:35.8	Hi, I'm Kare Swisher, editor-at-large of Reco.
0:38.2	You may know me as someone who is tired of living through history and would like to request
0:41.6	that we lived through a couple boring years that historians can ignore.
0:45.0	But in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Reco D-code,
0:48.4	a podcast about power change and the people you need to know
0:51.3	for part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:53.9	Today in the red chair is one of my favorite historians, John Measham,
0:57.2	the Pulitzer Prize winning author of books such as American Lion, Franklin and Winston,
1:01.2	and Thomas Jefferson, the art of power.
1:03.7	He's the host of a new podcast from Cadence 13 called Hope Through History.
1:07.8	John, we need a lot of hope.
1:09.1	It's about the history and trying times in American history,
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