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This Changes Everything with Sarah Rice

Reality TV Backlash, America's Next Top Model, Tyra Banks

This Changes Everything with Sarah Rice

Sarah Rice - Wave Podcast Network

Self Improvement, Education, Religion & Spirituality, The Challenge, Spirituality, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Sarah Rice, Mental Health

4.6884 Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

We're shifting gears this week, from therapy to something that I relate to personally. I recently watched the new Netflix doc about America's Next Top Model, and read up on the controversy and backlash that was caused when viewers listened to Tyra Banks' comments. Luckily, I'm in the fortunate position of having first hand experience with reality TV, and thought I'd share some insight and perspective. Enjoy.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, friends, and welcome once again to everybody's favorite therapy theme podcast.

0:08.2

I'm your host, Sarah, and today we are going to be talking about something that surprised me by how much it, well, I don't know, stirred up in my body and how much to, like, for lack of a better better word triggered me uh i recently watched the new

0:24.4

netflix documentary about america's next top model and i thought i was just sitting down to watch

0:31.5

i don't know like a nostalgic trip back into the y2K times with like dramatic judging panels and all that good stuff.

0:44.1

But instead, what I got was like me instantly transported back into my 20s and living inside the machine of reality television and the nightmare

0:57.8

that that was. And watching the contestants talk about what it felt like behind the scenes

1:05.0

and all the confusion and all the pressure and the blurred lines really between opportunity that they pitch it as and exploitation,

1:17.6

which is what sometimes it could end up feeling like, brought up so many memories from my time on the real world and also from my time on the challenge.

1:25.6

And I haven't revisited the world of reality television on this show in a long time.

1:33.5

And I thought this is the perfect time to do that.

1:37.4

And so we are going to be talking about, well, the power dynamics on there,

1:43.5

we're going to be talking about not fully understanding what you're signing up for, about realizing that what you thought was maybe a social experiment or competition was actually something entirely different.

1:54.8

And in this case, and maybe in my case, of the real world, it was brand new television, a brand new format of television that was being built in real time.

2:05.4

And I think this conversation really matters because reality TV didn't just entertain us.

2:10.4

It also shaped us.

2:11.5

And I don't mean us as people who participated in it.

2:14.3

I mean viewers.

2:15.8

And it shaped how we understand conflict. I mean, before I was a

2:19.7

participant on a reality show, I was a viewer. I, and I still am. I love reality TV. And

2:28.4

watching reality TV had such an impact on how I saw myself, my idea of what was cool, beauty, success,

2:38.0

all the things, what was normal, so much. And at the time, I don't think any of us really had a

2:47.2

language for what was happening. It's like we, we, I mean, I was sort of part of it.

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