Hello friends and welcome once again to everybody's favorite therapy theme podcast. Today, I'm so excited about this conversation. My guest is Camber Pierboom. She is a therapist, business owner, and the voice behind mean older sister, therapist, and loud thoughts therapy, which, hello, I love, always in my feed, the best. And if you ever feel like your brain is too loud or you're too hard on

yourself or I don't know, maybe you get stuck in the same patterns, even though you thought

you know better, well, this episode is for you. We're going to be talking about internal

family systems or IFS, which is a way of understanding yourself that's compassionate and honest

and actually works. And I can't wait for you to

hear this one. So welcome to the show, Camber. I feel like this is long overdue because the

internet or at least Instagram really, really wants us to connect. I totally agree. That Instagram is

like, you guys need to be best friends right now. And I'm like, okay, fine. If you and say I said, if you make me. And so I convinced you and talked to you into coming on my show so that we can talk about being the kinds of therapists that we are because I think you and I are very similar in our style. So I could just sit here and just like gush about you the whole time,

but I'll like maybe let you introduce yourself and talk a little bit about yourself.

But tell people about your Instagram account and how you came up with the name,

me and older sister. Oh, okay. I would love to. So, well, I actually started over on TikTok

before posting on Instagram. And I really, you know, I'm just a yapper in my heart. You know,

I had so much to say. I had so many words to just tell the internet about therapy and so many

opinions. I was working from home, working for myself. And I was just like, I need a community.

I need to find like a community of people again. And I also just in general kind of struggle to find a community throughout my career as a therapist that like practiced in the way that I do. Because I very much identify as like a very like authentic therapist and I show up as myself. And I have a little bit of a bigger personality and that's not for everybody but for the people that it is for like we work so yes well together and so I really like early in my career

struggled to find a community of people that like weren't just like modality robots or that were like

rightality robots or just like blank slates all the time and I was like oh, oh, God, I can't do this. How are you received by like, like, even in grad school and stuff like that? Is this how you've always been? Did you take you time to like kind of find this style and way of like being totally authentic as a therapist? Totally. It took, it took me some time to. I think I knew I wanted to be this way.

It took me time in my own therapy and all of the other things, too, to figure out that, like, it was okay to be this way, that it was okay to, like, kind of challenge the norm of just being again, like, the traditional therapist or what everybody thinks you're supposed to be as a therapist.

And so I have always been this way, but it took a lot of time to figure out, like,

okay, it's okay. It's okay for me to be myself. I'm actually much better therapist. When I'm

less burnt out. I feel like I'm not a poser. And I feel like it just, again, creates a safe space

for them clients to actually be themselves too. You know, they're not just sitting here, like, talking to somebody who they can't even

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