What It Really Means to Change with Benoit Denizet-Lewis
This Changes Everything with Sarah Rice
Sarah Rice - Wave Podcast Network
4.6 • 884 Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
What does it actually mean to change and why are we so fascinated (and suspicious) when people do? This week, Sarah sits down with Benoit Denizet-Lewis, acclaimed New York Times Magazine writer and author of You've Changed: The Promise and Price of Self-Transformation, to unpack the psychology, identity shifts, and messy reality of transformation. Drawing on deeply reported stories and personal insight, Benoit reveals why change is less about reinvention and more about self-discovery, and why it’s often more complicated (and communal) than we think.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello friends and welcome once again to everybody's favorite therapy theme podcast. I'm your host Sarah and with me today is Benoit Denizant Lewis who is an acclaimed New York Times magazine writer and author of this amazing new book called You've Changed, which dives into the mystery of human transformation, why we change, what it costs to us, what it reveals about who we are. |
| 0:21.4 | And today, we're going to be talking about just that. |
| 0:24.0 | I mean, a perfect topic for our show. |
| 0:26.7 | We're going to be talking about change. |
| 0:28.5 | Well, welcome to the show, Ben Y. |
| 0:29.8 | I'm so excited to have you here because if there weren't a perfect match, you, the author |
| 0:37.0 | of the book, you've changed, and me, the host of the podcast, |
| 0:41.8 | this changes everything. It's pretty perfect. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here. |
| 0:46.8 | First, I want to know what inspired you to write about change. I mean, that's a very broad topic. |
| 0:56.7 | Yes. And I don't try to make it less broad or less complicated than it is. |
| 1:01.7 | First, thank you for having me. It's awesome. And I think like a lot of things I write about, |
| 1:08.8 | there's sort of two things going on. |
| 1:12.0 | One is sort of trying to figure myself out through working on a project. |
| 1:18.3 | So there is a deeply personal element here. |
| 1:21.4 | I think that started many years ago. |
| 1:23.7 | I wrote a book about addiction and I followed eight different people in recovery, |
| 1:28.3 | or not in recovery, from addiction and wrote a little bit about my own battle with addiction. |
| 1:35.3 | And I think at the time, I was really interested just in change in that way. |
| 1:39.8 | Like, why do some people, like, could I get better? |
| 1:44.3 | Why do some people get better? Why do some people not get better? Like, why do some people, like, how could I get, could I get better? Why do some people get better? |
| 1:45.7 | Why do some people not get better? |
| 1:47.8 | Like, I was trying to understand that. |
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