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and start now. Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Real Hawk Talk. I am Brian Nemhouser. You can find me on

Twitter and Instagram and now Blue Sky, uh, at hoc blogger.

Uh, so, uh, it's been kind of crazy.

Even since this morning, I talked to some folks about blue sky and they got to

15 million users and then I checked like by the afternoon.

It was like 15 and a half.

Like it's been like just blowing up.

So it's kind of fun to be there at the beginning of something, even though it's been around for a while.

It's definitely taken on a new kind of a new persona in the last week or so.

So cool to see the growth there.

Cool to see that. And the person who

introduced me to it, or at least harassed me to get over there, is on the show with us tonight.

Dana O'Gorman, Dana, how are you doing? Good. I'm doing really good. It was time. We needed to

make the move. I told you off the air that I had signed up on blue sky, like way back, like over a year ago and then just kind of forgot about it. So I was really glad to see it kind of pick up over there. And it is. It's been live and fun. And I'm having a good time. But yeah, otherwise, you know, wish my team brought me a little more joy. but otherwise it's been a rough year to be a Seahawks fan

it's been a rough year to be a Seahawks fan. Yeah. Otherwise, you know, wish my team brought me a little more joy, but otherwise, I'm doing it.

It's been a rough year to be a Seahawks fan. It has been. And the person who's been talking to me about it the most, before it happened, during it happening and after it happens, is Jeff Simmons. He's with us again. Jeff, how are you doing, buddy? I'm all right. I'm all right. I can relate to what David is saying, but there's just so much bad football right now. It's just like, it's, I know there's been like a kind of a joke, like whether the game's been ugly. What I mean by that is there's so many bad teams.

It's like every time I'm like, want to get more down in the Seahawks, like I see like what's happening right now with the Colts. And I'm like, maybe we don't have it so bad. But then the Seahawks play in and it's like, okay, maybe we do. So it's been a whirlwind of the season for sure. I want to get into that because I think the emotional,

the emotional toll it takes and the,

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