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Rationally Speaking #206 - Kal Turnbull on "Change My View"

Rationally Speaking Podcast

New York City Skeptics

Society & Culture, Skepticism, Science, Philosophy

4.6787 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2018

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

When people argue on the internet, you never expect anyone to actually say "You know what, that's a good point, you've changed my view somewhat." But Change My View, a fast-growing subreddit founded by Kal Turnbull, is an exception to the rule. Julia and Kal discuss the culture of Change My View, what makes it such an oasis for reasonable discussion on the Internet, and what we've learned about what motivates people to change their minds or not.

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0:00.0

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0:20.9

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0:26.0

It's free and available to everyone online. Check them out at give well.org. Welcome to Rationally Speaking, the podcast where we explore the borderlands between reason and nonsense.

0:49.9

I'm your host, Julia Galef, and I'm here today with Cal Turnbull.

0:59.8

Cal is the founder of Change My View, a subreddit that is a forum on Reddit.com,

1:05.7

created to be a place for reasonable discussion, where basically what it says in the title.

1:09.9

People come with a view that they are interested in maybe changing in some way,

1:13.6

or having people show them aspects of their view where they might have been missing something

1:16.6

or where there might be more nuanced than they realized,

1:18.9

and other people on the subreddit point out those potential flaws in blind spots,

1:23.6

and often people come away with a changed version of their original view. It's a true

1:29.9

rarity on the internet. So we're going to talk today about how change my view works, what makes it

1:37.5

work, and how it came to be. Cal, welcome to the show. Hello, thank you for having me.

1:43.1

So how long ago did you start to change my view?

1:46.1

So just over five years now in January 2013. What were you doing at the time, you know, in your life?

1:53.6

So I was in my final year of secondary school, so high school. And basically I was I was coming towards

2:00.7

the end of that year I had my

2:03.0

grades I had my university offers and and so it was a bit of a weird time a bit of a

2:09.5

reflective time and and so yeah I just kind of it all came about in that moment and so

2:16.5

it's been around about five years. How big is it?

2:19.6

How many people use it? Yeah. So we have 549,000 subscribers at the moment. And yeah, it's growing

2:28.4

quite fast, really, maybe about 800 subscribers a day on average. So tell us how it works.

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