Welcome back to The Ground Up Show. My name is Matt Diavella, and this is the podcast where I explore what it means to live a good life.

This week, I'm sharing my interview with Ramit Sadie.

Ramit is the author of the New York Times bestselling book. I will teach you to be rich.

A book that I read 10 years ago that helped me climb my way out of nearly six figures in student loan debt.

I was honored to have a chance

to sit down with him to talk about how to earn more money, create healthy spending habits,

and change the way we've been thinking about money for our entire lives. To get access to the full

75-minute interview, become a member at patreon.com slash Matt Diabella. I hope you get as much

value out of this conversation as I did.

Why don't you just start out?

Give me a little bit of an introduction to the kind of work you're doing right now

and what you've been up to later.

Sure.

I decided years ago to take my college scholarship money

and invest it in a stock market

because I thought that's what everybody was doing in 1999, 2000.

I lost half my money and I realized I wasn't as smart as I thought I was.

So I started learning about money and at the same time I was learning about psychology.

And over time I basically got really interested in learning how

to change my own behavior with money, with careers, and with negotiation and all

kinds of parts of self-development. So I started a blog called I Will Teach You Be

Rich. I was sober when I named that. I don't know if I would make the same name

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