Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Five Star App Meditation Studio and Muse, the personal

meditation assistant that helps you learn to meditate. I'm Patricia Carpice, co-founder

of meditation studio and your host on Untangle. Join us each week as we introduce you to authors, experts, and thought leaders who share

their stories on how meditation and mindfulness practices have the power to change our

lives.

To get started meditating on your own, you can download the Meditation Studio app in the

App Store, where you'll get over 500

original and exclusive meditations by leading experts on everything from sleep, stress,

and anxiety to happiness, leadership, relationships, and much, much more. It's like having

a little inspirational coach in your pocket when you're facing any

challenge. Any comments? Reach out to us at Untangle at Meditation Studio app.com. Today's guest is

Ralph DeLerosa. Ralph is a therapist, meditation teacher, storyteller, and author of the new book,

The Monkey is the Messenger, Meditation,

and What Your Busy Mind is Trying to Tell You.

In this interview, he shares why we shouldn't run away from or try to numb the thoughts or feelings

that come from our crazy monkey minds.

He calls some of these thoughts, the ones that tend to feel negative and

annoying, pointless, repetitive, sometimes hurtful, and hard to control. We've all had them.

Instead, he says, we can be with our busy minds and explore what we might learn from them.

If you think you can't meditate because your mind is too busy,

Ralph asks you to think again. We shouldn't be so quick to hit the snooze button. And he shares a few

different tools we can use to work with our busy minds. He also shares a number of concrete ways we can uplevel our happiness.

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