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The Glenn Show

Rajiv Sethi – The Trump-Led Upheaval at Columbia

The Glenn Show

Glenn Loury

Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

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0:36 How Rajiv saw Trump’s assault on elite higher ed coming

4:26 The Trump administration’s legitimate complaints against higher ed

9:41 Rajiv: The crackdown on campus protest would have happened even without the October 7 protest

17:10 How test scores can marry merit and diversity on college campuses

21:06 Glenn: Doesn’t SFFA v. Harvard justify JD Vance’s criticisms of higher ed?

25:30 Columbia’s capitulation to the Trump administration

33:06 Columbia’s new measures against antisemitism

38:09 The opportunistic adoption of contested phrases

43:27 How bad is the antisemitism problem at Barnard and Columbia?

50:44 Who has the authority to police Columbia’s MESAAS scholars?

1:00:55 Facing the prospect of Trump-generated American brain drain

Recorded March 23, 2025

Links and Readings

Rajiv’s Substack, Imperfect Information

Rajiv’s post April 2024 post, “Minority Report”

FIRE’s 2024 Faculty Survey

Rajiv’s post, “The Lion Hath Roared”

The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s “Working Definition of Antisemitism”

Eli Lake’s X post questioning the attempt to deport Mahmoud Khalil

Preorder Glenn’s book, Self-Censorship

Noam Dworman moderates a debate between Eli Lake and Norman Finkelstein

Lex Friedman hosts a debate between Norman Finkelstein, Mouin Rabbani, Benny Morris, and Destiny

Dworman interviews Rashid Khalidi

Henry Louis Gates Jr. on Mari Matsuda’s Words That Wound: Critical Race Theory, Assaultive Speech, and the First Amendment

Killer Mike’s 2024 FIRE keynote



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0:00.0

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0:06.6

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0:21.8

Thank you.

0:23.4

Hello, Rajiv. How are you?

0:24.8

Hi, Glenn. Fine. Thank you.

0:26.4

This is Glenn Laude. This is The Glenn Show. And I'm with Rajiv Sedi.

0:31.2

I teach at Brown University and am host of the Glenn Show, Glenn Laurie, host of the Glenn Show.

0:37.5

And Rajeev is a professor of economics at Barnard College, Columbia University, and an old friend and collaborator, colleague of mine.

0:45.3

So it's good to welcome you back, Rajiv, to the Glenn Show.

0:49.0

Thanks, Glenn. Very happy to be back.

0:51.2

So what's going on with you in your life these days?

1:01.0

Well, Colombia, as you know, has been in the news quite a bit and Barnard with it. So being involved with various activities on campus trying to see what the faculty can do,

1:09.0

put our heads together to deal with the issues that

1:11.8

we're facing which are quite brave, as you know.

1:14.6

That's part of it.

1:15.6

And then of course my usual research in teaching.

1:17.0

Yeah, I certainly want to talk about what's going on at Columbia and more broadly in

1:23.1

American higher education.

1:24.9

The audience should know that you are, in addition to being a fine economist,

1:29.8

scholar and teacher, also the author of a very informative newsletter, what you call

1:37.0

imperfect information, which people can find at Substack.

1:41.6

And I don't know, for the last year or so, you've been periodically posting your

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