Dr. Kathy, so grateful for your time today and to get to spend some time with you and to hear your wisdom. I oddly enough, I, my brother-in-law told me about you and your work. And it's odd because he's not a dad. He doesn't have any kids. And I know you do so much in the parenting realm. Yeah. But he said, Jared, you have to have this woman on. She's just wonderful and has so much

wisdom. And so I'm grateful that we had a chance to connect and to have you on today. For the audience who may not be familiar, tell us who you are and what you're up to these days. Right. Well, first all, I already love your brother-in-law. And thanks for trusting you. That's way cool. Yeah, so I'm Kathy Cook. I am the founder and president of

Celebrate Kids. We're based in Fort Worth, Texas. I do parent education. I work with teachers

and all kinds of schools, do a lot of pro-life work, work with youth pastors, work with kids of all ages

in school, church, and conference settings. Just love supporting the family. So happy to be here

with your dad's.

The dad is so important the way that he leads, the way that he follows wisdom, like what we

could provide today, hopefully. So yeah, I'm former teacher, coach, school board member,

professor. Just love traveling and writing and supporting guys like you, really grateful to know

you and what you're doing here.

Thank you. Thank you. Well, maybe we'll just hang there for a second. You and you talked about the

importance of dads because you've had a lot of experience working with parents and working with

children over many years. From your perspective, what have you seen? How important is it?

I know I'm kind of leading a softball question here, but how important is it? And from your

perspective, that a dad does stay engaged based on your experience. Yeah, I better say very

important, right? Otherwise, the show is going to be short. Yeah, we'll just cut it off. Yeah, I know that's kind of a softball. That was kind of a lame question to ask. But I'm just, you know, from your perspective. No, I hear your heart in that. Like you want your audience to get it. It's extremely important. So, you know, a lot of dads didn't have good experiences growing up. A lot of dads are potentially struggling with any number of things that are on dads and moms today is just insane. So what a privilege to be here. Dads need to connect with their sons. Dads need to read in front of their sons. It's extremely important. Dads can be strength for daughters. You know,

daughters who don't have a good relationship with their dads will look for a man to affirm their

beauty. So guys got to be really careful. But there was, I'll say right up front, dads need to

affirm the beauty of their children and everything else. Like there was a friend of mine nicknamed

his daughter Pretty. And I thought at the

beginning that's okay. But at three, four, five years old, he was still calling her pretty. And I said, Roy, she's going to believe that all you know about her is that she's pretty. And she's going to be scared when she goes up one day and doesn't feel pretty. That awkward stage that all girls go through. you have got to make sure that you tell her the other things that she is.

So one of the things that I say when I'm in front of appearance is that dad's affirm that they're

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