If you think about what is the reason why women are looking for martial arts and self-defense

is because they want to feel empowered to navigate the real world.

We want to learn how to defend ourselves so we can navigate real life.

And that is something that enriches you as a person.

When you start out challenges and you accomplish challenges, nobody can take that from you.

Welcome to the Hardway podcast with Joe Ducina, founder and CEO of Spartan Races.

We're teaching you how to overcome your obstacles in your life the same way we teach

our 10 million plus Spartans to overcome obstacles on the course.

With insight from the smartest, most accomplished experts from every corner of the world get ready to

elevate your life today joe descenta here CEO and founder of sparton hosts of the hardway podcast

i have an amazing guest on today cecilina gracie friend of mine she's competed she's from the

gracie bloodline right the famous bloodline she's competed in brazilian the Gracie bloodline, right? The famous bloodline. She's competed in

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. She runs a club now. She teaches. She inspires. She just climbed Mount

Everest. I have no idea why. I want to hear why. And she's going to teach us a thing or two.

What's going on? Welcome aboard. Hi, Joe. Thanks for having me.

How does it, did you have to live up to like some standard being a Gracie? I think I was

fortunate to be exposed to principles that for other people, they might look like high standards.

And for me, it was just a gift and a blessing to have this inside my home as something natural for us.

You know, everything from the way we eat, our consciousness with our body, how we react and respond.

Because if you react with disrespect, you know what you're going to get in return.

And just the way we conduct ourselves is something that if you look at society

as a whole, we could definitely use more of those principles. But when you're growing up,

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