We have a journey and our journey has brought us to this place where we are, where we need

to talk about these things, we need to write about these things and we're going to, we're

in the process of doing that because there's just so much that is out there and trying

to integrate all of the information so that we could be helpful to our clients but be

helpful to our colleagues so that we can do that in the period of time that we have left

in this world, there's so many moving pieces, you know, there's so many things that

happened to us and even on the train, the last train staff from Boston, we upgraded to

first class and this man kept checking our tickets, he kept checking the tickets and we were

like, what's going on, he's not checking anybody else but nobody else in first class

looked like us and he was an African-American male, like 70s, 80s whenever and so when

we got off, he said, no, I'm really sorry, I just had to make sure, checking your ticket,

and we're like, oh, that's okay, we know that you were doing your job, he's like, I don't

know what you girls do, but I want to just tell you that I'm proud of you, I'm proud

of you for sitting up there because it's not often that people like us sit up here and

I just want to thank you for what you do.

Welcome to Therapist Uncensored, building on decades of professional experience this

podcast tackles neurobiology, modern attachment, and more, in an honest way that's helpful

in healing humans.

Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.

So I don't like being contained by anybody else's rules, so much so that I can't even

stay on a budget that I make myself because I don't want to tell myself what to do, but

there is one containing thing that I do every single day, and that's to wear a bra.

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