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Welcome to the Jill on Money Show. It is Sunday, November 13th.

And today, we are airing the second part of our interview with best-selling author, Annie Duke.

Her new book is so good. It's called Quit, the power of knowing when to walk away.

I think that what's really important, we talked about this yesterday,

is why it is so hard to walk away. Because part of that has to do with you don't know how things

are going to turn out. And so we're going to continue our conversation about why quitting?

Get's a bad rap in society. Here is part two of our interview with Annie Duke.

You know, it's amazing to me. You have a line in the book and I highlighted it.

It's early on, but it really jumped out at me. And you write, the desire for certainty

is the siren song calling us to persevere. And I remember this because when I was researching

my first book, I remember talking to a neuropsychologist who explained to me that uncertainty

literally fries people's brains. It is insane what humans have to, how they manage uncertainty.

So it's almost like this idea. The certainty that I know this is terrible, but the uncertainty is

like it could be terrible. It could be good. It's still uncertainty. How can we help people

cross over in advance, like before things get horrible, like what can be our turnaround rule

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