General Stan McChrystal is known for commanding the Special Operations Forces during the Obama years and this is when the Special Operations Forces during the Obama years.

And this is when the Special Operations Forces were working at maximum capacity in Iraq and

Afghanistan.

It created all kinds of new problems of communication and bureaucracy.

And one of the many things he's known for

is actually helping figure out an entirely new way

in which large sprawling organizations can keep everyone

in the loop.

But that's not what I wanted to talk to Stan McChrystal about. I

wanted to talk to him about what it means to serve quietly. In a world in which we

feel the need to advertise everything we do on social media,

Stan McChrystal has led a career that very often is behind the scenes.

This is a bit of optimism.

Stan, thanks so much for doing this.

Now you come from a line of soldiers.

You pushed to join the army or did you want to join the army?

Where did the inclination come because you had the choice, I assume, to go in one direction or

another for your career?

Well, you're correct.

My father was a soldier and my father's father was a

soldier. My four brothers were soldiers. My sister married a soldier. I married the daughter of a soldier.

Her three brothers are soldiers. Her sister's the widow of a soldier, her three brothers or soldiers, her sister's the

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