I've known Gai Raz for a very long time. We actually went to understand the complexities of how things work and how people work continues to amaze me.

And so it was incredibly fun for me to have one of the most popular podcasters in history

come as a guest on my podcast. What a lot of people don't know about Guy

is that he used to be a war correspondent. He has been in harm's way multiple times.

Plus he's also talked to many entrepreneurs about what it takes to start a business.

So he understands this concept of courage from many different angles.

So that's what we talked about.

Courage. How to find it, where it comes from,

and what to do with it.

This is a bit of optimism.

The thing that I wanted to talk to you about is courage.

Yeah.

And the reason is because most people know you for your podcasts and especially for how I built this where you talk to people

who have the courage to do extraordinary things in business. But what I think a lot of people don't know about you is that you

used to be a war correspondent. Yeah. And you used to embed with the military in some of the most dangerous situations that were happening in the world.

And I thought, you're unbelievably well qualified to talk about courage.

There are, I think, different types of courage. We are living in a day

and age I think right now where people are finding courage, where people need to find courage,

the courage to stand up, the courage to challenge the status quo, the courage to speak

one's truth, the courage to demand change, the courage to ask for help, the courage to have difficult

conversations.

You know, it's interesting, this topic of courage is something I've thought about a lot over over the course of my life and I think the reason why Simon is because I have never thought of myself as a courageous person and I don't say that to be

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