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Fiss Emry noted author, former White House usher all around just a good guy. Welcome man.

Michael great to see you.

You were a White House usher which is a job that a lot of people don't know exists.

Tell us about that part of your story, how you became an usher, what is a White House usher?

And how does it all kind of weave itself in and out of the story of presidents?

Well absolutely. And Michael, you know I realized this the other day and I don't know what made

me think of it but I am a real White House insider.

Yes you are.

More so than anybody else that says they are which hopefully after this you'll everyone

will understand why but but the usher's office is a very unique rare office that's inside

the White House that's been around for almost 200 years and it is actually the management

office for the White House, the home of the first family and the 18 acres of grounds

that surround the house and the usher's are there to primarily make that that building

feel like a home to the first family, not an office and not a museum.

The usher's and I happen to be the 18th one in history.

So they stay around for a while.

They stay around a while yeah.

But I spent eight just over eight years in the White House I worked for President Reagan,

President H.W. Bush and President Clinton and I just had the most amazing job in the

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