Putin wants to spread chaos in Europe. Here’s how he’ll do it

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

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🗓️ 20 December 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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With his playbook of brutal invasion, cyberwar and intimidation, Vladimir Putin is the nightmare neighbour of every country that borders Russia. Beyond his crimes in Ukraine, could Putin’s ambitions run wider – into the heart of Europe? Gavin Esler explores how Russia is using weak spots along its border from Estonia to the Balkans to fan feuds, create chaos and tear at the fabric of the global order. Jasmin Mujanović explains how Russia is pushing to reignite the simmering Serbia/Kosovo dispute. And Putin-watcher Mark Galeotti explains that while the brutal system that the Russian tyrant has built looks invulnerable, behind the façade it is worryingly brittle. • “For most of Putin’s reign Russia has been at declared or undeclared war with someone. What he likes is a certain low level of chaos.” – Mark Galeotti • “Russia saw Serbia as a really cheap opportunity to invest in low-level chaos… which is now becoming more serious.” – Jasmin Mujanović • “Putin is going to look at what will be politically bloody, hard-fought American Presidential election and see how he can use it to tear the United States apart.” – Mark Galeotti Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon to get early episodes, merchandise and more. Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Two, T. T.
0:04.0	Gee!
0:05.0	Roo!
0:07.0	Roo, Roo, Roo,
0:10.0	Roo, ... Russian soldiers have been told their fighting because the criminality of Chechnya
0:19.3	has spilled into neighbouring territories and is even destabilizing Moscow. But no one feels the lawlessness more than the
0:26.8	Chechens themselves.
0:27.8	There is really nothing that the Georgian forces can do to stop these attacks. The Russian Air Force has complete command of the air.
0:34.7	All evidence shows was perpetrated by the so-called separatists. We call them terrorists.
0:41.0	We're going to Russia. They call them terrorists. We bring a terroristion or privateignan
0:45.0	Spitzal and Valeni apparatus.
0:48.0	Russia launched an attack on neighboring Ukraine early Thursday.
0:51.0	Ukraine's military said Russia began shelling Ukrainian forces in the
0:54.2	countries east and carried out rocket strikes at airports in multiple cities across Ukraine.
0:59.0	Invasion, cyber attacks, election meddling, scyops, and political intrigue, is Vladimir Putin the world's worst neighbor.
1:12.0	Most of Putin's reign, Russia has been at declared or undeclared wall with someone.
1:18.0	What he likes is precisely a certain low level of chaos.
1:22.0	In the mountains above the village of Banska which was stormed by ethnic Serb gunman.
1:27.0	Police are still gathering intelligence.
1:29.6	The Russians realized that there was a whole host of weak spots on this roofery of the Atlantic and European order,
1:38.0	and one of them was the one in the Balkans.
1:42.0	They are playing with Putin's playbook in Don Pass,
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