It is here.

And AI will be able to do more and more of your work.

What will people still coming to you for?

What is your value?

I think that's all of us to answer.

From the TED Audio Collective,

this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

On Design Matters, Debbie talks with some of the most creative people in the world about what they do,

how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, a conversation with Pum Lefebure about her career and about AI and design.

You have to be a good creative director to your AI and giving specific feedback for them to get better.

Pum Lefebure is the co-founder and chief creative officer of Design Army, an internationally recognized design studio known for its distinctive fusion of art, commerce, and cultural storytelling.

Born in Bangkok and now based in Washington, D.C., Lefebibur has built a body of work that spans global campaigns for clients, including

Netflix, PepsiCo, and the Smithsonian Institution, work that is as visually arresting as it is

strategically precise. Her approach resists easy categorization. She has described design not simply as a discipline, but as a

language, one that must be both deeply felt and rigorously constructed. Under her leadership,

Design Army has become known for a process that privileges individual vision over consensus,

craft over convenience, and long-term cultural

impact over short-term trend. At the center of her practice is a set of ongoing questions,

how design creates meaning, how it moves between art and business, and what it takes to make

something that doesn't just capture attention,

but stays with you.

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