I'm often amazed even just with myself how much energy seems to be inside of me ready to devote to working.

From the Tet Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Millman.

On Design Matters with Debbie Millman. On Design Matters, Debbie talks with some of the most creative people in the world about what they do,

how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about, and working on.

On this episode, a conversation with designer and director Santiago Carrasquilla about his career

and about the virtuous circle he finds himself at. The more I create, the more I love doing it,

the more things I make, the more things I want to make.

Santiago Carasquia is a director, designer, and the founder of Art Camp, a multidisciplinary creative studio that has spent a decade making work nobody has ever seen before.

Born in Colombia, in shaped by migrations across multiple continents, before landing in New York, Santiago brings an outsider's wonder and an insider's

precision to everything he touches. His studio blends hand-drawn illustration with 3D animation,

live action, and emerging technology to create work that is at its core about human emotion.

Beneath the acclaimed commercial work and the award-winning films

lies something rare, an unshakable belief in the power of optimism and craft.

Santiago Carasquia, welcome to Design Matters.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Davi.

Santi, is it true that you worked with 15 people over 15

days to glue 35,000 cigarette papers to a wall for a mural? That is true. In Chicago, we're producing a mural

for Stefan. Stefan Sagmeister.

Yes.

What was the creative idea behind the 15 people over 15 days gluing 35,000? How do you find 35,000 cigarette papers?

It was a whole production challenge to find all of the papers on time.

But the way that piece came to be was

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