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Hello, creatives. I'm Joanna Penn. And this is episode number 708 of the podcast, and it is Friday the 11th of August

2023 as I record this. In today's show, I'm talking to Tanya Ellis about writing books for children,

how to work with an illustrator, different products you can make alongside your books,

different ways to publish, as well as marketing

to adults who buy for children, and how to make school visits profitable and another income stream

for your author business. And of course, valuing our time is important, whatever genre you write

as the publishing industry is notorious for not paying authors for speaking. So you should get some ideas, whatever genre you write as the publishing industry is notorious for not paying authors for speaking.

So you should get some ideas, whatever genre you write in.

So that's coming up in the interview section.

So in publishing and book marketing things, well, lots going on.

In traditional publishing, publishing perspectives,

reports that investment company KKR will buy Simon and Schuster, less than a year after a

federalable federal judge in late October 2022 blocked Penguin Random House from acquiring

Simon and Schuster.

So KKR are, you know, a finance company, an investment firm,

and they have noted a commitment to growth and also to employees.

Now, they own a lot of different companies in many different areas,

really interesting company if you go and have a look.

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