Hey, everybody, David here, letting you know that we are launching our next round of navigating

psychedelics for clinicians and therapists. Starts on Wednesday, September 14th and runs for nine

weeks. Two groups at 2 or 7 p.m. Eastern Time. And this is the course that I took a couple

years ago that literally changed my life,

changed my career, resulted in me joining psychedelics today, and somehow I am now one of

those teachers on the navigating psychedelics course that starts next month.

So if you want to find out more, you can check out the course on psychedeliceducationcenter.com,

navigating psychedelics for clinicians

and therapists.

And if you want to join a free webinar, we're doing those each week up until the start date.

You can book your spot on psychedelics today.com forward slash events.

Thank you. Welcome to Psychedelics.

Today, everybody, you've got a treat installed today.

It's a podcast that Kyle recorded with Steve Thayer from Nobemind.

And it's awesome, really enjoyable, so I got a sneak preview. Steve, someone I met actually

at Horizons conference last year in the line for the toilet, a long slide, Michael Mithofer.

So the three of us had a nice chat there. Something that really stands out from the chat that

Carl and Steve had is around psychedelic assistedassisted psychotherapy, the assisted psychotherapy.

So how important the psychotherapy is for really understanding how to make this work for an

individual client, that there's no kind of one-size-fits-all model that everyone has to fit inside.

That really there's one model that they use at Novermind and they can be tweaked and

personalised for the clients that they're working with.

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