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Hello there everybody. Welcome to psychedelics today. It's David here. And this is a wonderful

conversation with Susan Bolio. And it's the fifth and final conversation we recorded at From Research

to Reality in Toronto back in May. What a time that was. And when I had this chat with Susan, I actually did shed a couple of tears.

I don't remember exactly what she was saying, but there was this emotion and feeling that

kind of bubbled up inside of me, just realizing what she's doing in Minnesota, I know,

with her people of the Anishinaabee tribe and the Red Lake

Nation, what this means historically, it's incredibly powerful. And she goes into some of the

stories of our own life and her family, and she's a mom of four, of how trauma, substance use affected her

family and how it's affecting her tribe and her nation. And there's not much there to help.

There's a huge need for healing. And they have some beautiful traditions, rites of passages and customs that are kind of

coming back, that are being reinvigorating. And there are questions there. And there's a

dialogue happening that Susan's part of around, what could psychedelics play a role here?

Her nation don't have a history of plant medicines, but there's still some

really valid conversations around, well, what would fit into our container, into our ancient

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