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The Rich Roll Podcast

Psychotherapist John W. Price Unpacks Ancient Wisdom For Modern Healing

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2025

⏱️ 174 minutes

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Summary

Dr. John Price is a depth psychotherapist and co-founder of The Center for Healing Arts & Sciences. This conversation explores why men have 50% fewer friends than twenty years ago, the crisis of modern masculinity, shadow work, and John's concept of "sacred refusal" —honoring the adaptations that once saved us but now destroy us. We discuss why suffering is initiation not pathology, the absence of rites of passage, and how the things we find most uncomfortable often reveal our deepest truths. John turns the therapeutic lens on me throughout—a benign adversary calling out my own resistance to vulnerability. This is medicine for anyone feeling trapped by their current circumstances. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style👉https://www.on.com/richroll Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF👉https://www.gobrewing.com AG1: Get a FREE bottle of D3K2, Welcome Kit, and 5 travel packs with your first order👉https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉https://www.betterhelp.com/richroll WHOOP: The all-new WHOOP 5.0 is here! Get your first month FREE👉https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll Bon Charge Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL👉https://www.boncharge.com Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉https://www.richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us ⁠@voicingchange

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out to Illinois and speak at this event that he was hosting called Go, which ended up being

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this really incredible weekend oriented around taking inspired action. Joe and I hit it off,

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