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The "What is Money?" Show

Property as Philosophical Steel | The Hillebrand Series | Episode 10 (WiM069)

The "What is Money?" Show

Robert Breedlove

Bitcoin, Breedlove, What Is Money, Investing, Rabbit Hole, Cryptocurrency, Money, Finance, Education, Robert Breedlove, History

4.8710 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Max Hillebrand joins me for a multi-episode conversation covering the masterwork on libertarian philosophy “The Ethics of Liberty” written by Murray Rothbard.

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0:00.0

This is where I agree with you.

0:10.0

I don't think Bitcoin extinguishes the state because although it is a monetary property right independent of coercion and violence, virtually independent, let's say,

0:23.1

not 100%. We're still left with all the physical property rights and our own physical

0:29.0

person and like we need physical security and physical reality.

0:33.0

So my general thought here, somewhat inspired by Hoppe's democracy, the god that failed,

0:41.0

is that Bitcoin ends up being this economic limiting factor on state overgrowth, let's say.

0:48.7

So by increasing the ratio of resistant to non-resistant actors, it's shrinking the tax base,

0:55.9

which would lead to a shrinking of the state, possibly even a fragmentation of nation-states.

1:04.0

And maybe we end up, like in the distant long game here, back in a more monarchical type governance model, where the tax

1:16.1

base supports a more localized, more regionalized body of governance, a government,

1:24.9

free private city, whatever you want to call it, that owns that property

1:30.3

by virtue of its defending it, right? It's actually physically secure at a territory.

1:35.3

And then market actors just freely pay, you know, they negotiate openly with that monarch

1:42.3

to live in that city or that jurisdiction,

1:45.6

whatever it's called, paying in Bitcoin, you know, so you end up with everyone owning Bitcoin

1:51.2

and kind of renting everything else from these monarchs in my hypothetical model here.

1:59.2

I think that's a plausible stepping stone in the probably not so distant future.

2:06.9

Is it going to be a stable environment?

2:11.6

That's a whole other question, right?

2:14.8

Like, you know, if we would have these kind of city states and monarchs, what would the trend be?

2:23.3

Would the trend be ever further fracturing? And are we then not end up with a bunch of sovereign individuals?

2:31.3

Or is the trend further centralization and a further white-shed belief of authority

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