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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak

Pronouncing the Interior

Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak

Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak

Spirituality, Comedy, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Lost in the curtain and looking up rugs. This week, a manifested paediatrician, the willingness to sing, and a foretold pilgrimage. Kate shares her true feelings about choreography, while Jacqueline engages in extreme massaging of the neck. Self-containment and ghosting the ghost tour. If that’s not Gaia, what is? An update on Kate's nightstands and Jacqueline’s scrolling relationship. Black pointy boots and babies at Shirley Temple’s house. The willingness to sing inspires a night that the Berlants wont soon forget. A tear rolling down the cheek, all lights are green. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Kate Burland.

0:02.3

I'm Jacqueline Novak.

0:03.4

And this is Pug, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

0:08.1

Two untamable intellects.

0:09.9

This is our hobby.

0:10.7

This is our hell.

0:11.6

This is our naked desire for free products.

0:13.9

This is Pug.

0:15.3

Today's topics, loosely speaking.

0:17.2

Energy units.

0:18.6

Willingness to sing.

0:20.4

Pediatrician.

0:24.9

Greetings.

0:26.3

It does feel like coming home to come here after.

0:29.0

What's wrong?

0:30.0

You tasted something bad?

0:31.8

Um, sorry.

0:36.8

Oh, ice, my mediocre matcha I made, no fault to the matcha.

0:40.1

All the scents of the fridge.

0:41.6

Got ruined with a bad, with a freezer cube.

0:43.8

The freezer cube that absorbs the flavors in the freezer, I mean, it's just fucking disgusting.

0:48.2

Yeah.

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