Hi, I'm Kate Burland.

I'm Jacqueline Novak.

And this is Pug, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends. Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby. This is our hell. This is our naked desire for free products. This is Pug. Today's topics, loosely speaking, hot strawberry, screamless genius, Paging Doctor Me.

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You know what's cute about this just to bring it right into the...

So for those listening, I'm wearing an army jacket that I got in New York.

I mean, it's an authentic vintage army jacket.

It's Surrender Dorothy.

But my friend who runs the vintage store's surrender Dorothy was like, it's an authentic vintage army jacket. It's Surrender Dorothy. But my friend who runs the vintage horse, Surrender Dorothy, was like, she knew me when I was in the ninth grade. And she's like, you had an army jacket. And I completely had fucking forgotten that I wore an army jacket that I had from the gap. Because I was so obsessed with freaks and geeks. And I wanted to be Linda Cardalini or is it Lisa? She rules. Linda Carlini rules. Okay, yeah, of course. And I'm forgetting her fucking name in the, in Freaks and Geeks. Well, you had her real name. I think that's all that matters. I know about so depressing me that I can't. Anyway, but she and so then I, so it's back.

No, I absolutely love it. It reminds me. I was thinking the other day about how I had a barn jacket, a barn coat. It's like the end of the kind of work coat.

Yep. Yep. Very, very northeast, very north, very east coast. Yeah, New England. You're out, you're out in the shed working.

And I just think a lot about these times of obsessively, again, choosing colors of things,

not just rugs, but staring at catalogs in the old days for hours, right?

I know.

And just, and looking at the colors, looking at the coat, you know, they show it in one color,

but then you see on the bottom, the other options.

And it's like, you know, like a pile of sweaters.

Yeah, lands in those catalogs.

And also deciding to let the names in, like to let the names into deciding the name of a color. Oh, yeah, sure. Azure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that even how you say it? I think it's got to be. Yeah. But like you're like introduced to a color via J crew before you've ever heard of. Yeah. You know, it's kind of interesting. Like, I'd like the Azurre. Yeah, yeah. Tony Soprano, remember when, but. Wait, what do you say? The lowest form of conversation, remember when? Isn't that, you always bring that up. Doesn't Polly say it? That's so funny, really. Remember when? I thought Tony does. Maybe, maybe he's Tony. By the way, I do for rewatch.

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