Hi, I'm Kate Burland.

I'm Jacqueline Novak.

And this is Pug, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

Two untamable intellects.

This is our hobby.

This is our hell.

This is our naked desire for free products.

This is Pug.

Today's topics, loosely speaking.

Grohl Bowl.

CVS After Dark, 94 degrees.

Hello.

Hi, how are you?

Nice to see you.

Well, good to see you.

You'll relate to this this morning and I feel like it's better, but I went to like an absolutely packed, like hot Pilates class. I'm always proud when you, when you go into packed ones because of your fear of illness.

I know.

And I was the whole time like, well, how will this not do it?

It's not like being around people means sickness always.

Being around people is one thing.

Being in a tiny, no ventilation.

But the assumption that someone's sick. You know what I mean? I know. I know. No, I know. I know. I totally know. I'm just challenging it. And that's why it's immersion therapy. It's exposure therapy. But I also had somebody, I think it was acupuncturist being like, you really don't want to be next to people who are sweating like that because you don't know what the fuck their toxic load is. Sure. And it's like fucking disgusting. And I was like totally. Fair enough. And, um, and, and, but I, so there's that. So I woke up. But then I also go, as you know, my raw, I got allergy tested. I did the full scratch test where on your back they poke you a million times. So here's what's like inconclusive. No, here's what you go. This is really funny. So every food, right? And I'm like, whoa, what if there's allergies, every dander, every pollen. And she said the negative test is very accurate.

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