the arena that he's playing in, it does seem like he's getting the juice out of the squeeze.

Okay.

And I'm very interested to see what happens with him going forward.

I want to ask you.

Let me just have one thing quickly because I agree with the open is wrong.

But I just want to underscore this point.

Like I said before, if this third party or independent party or whatever it's being called that Tucker kind of unveiled

at least his willing his like determination to create and to support ends up being basically

just a right-wing like maga alienated group of people is only you know him and marjorie tail

green and Tucker tomassie and et cetera joe kent those kind of people Tulsi who know who knows where she's going to be. But if it's only that, it's just going to be pointless.

It's never going to work. And I wouldn't even tell people on the left, hey, go join that.

It's only going to work as like a coalition of people who have differences. And that means

making concessions as well, you know, from everybody. And I'll just

like quickly add, like, I remember 1992 election, the 1992 election with Bill Clinton, George

H.W. Bush and Ross Perrault. Ross Perot was a Texas billionaire, really not anybody who, like,

the left would find interesting or would resonate with in any way.

And if you look back at that election, just Ross Perrault basically ran as almost a one-issue candidate,

which was the devastation of NAFTA and free trade while George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton supported it.

In retrospect, even though Ross Perra was not a man of the left, I do think maybe the political

agenda and goals of the left would have been better served if Ross Perot had been elected than

Bill Clinton or George H.W. Bush, despite the fact that there were huge differences between

the left and Ross Perot. Yeah. Bill Clinton being frankly a Republican, like the best Republican they never

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