Processing ... Or Anxious Thinking? (Episode 119)
Disordered: Anxiety Help
Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
4.9 • 663 Ratings
🗓️ 1 August 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
When something shocking or difficult happens, we're often told we need to "process" our emotions. But what if that endless loop of replaying events in your mind isn't actually processing at all? In this episode, Drew and Josh explore the crucial difference between healthy emotional processing and anxious rumination that keeps us stuck.
- How to distinguish between genuine emotional processing and OCD/GAD-style rumination
- Why that "urgent" feeling to think through something repeatedly might be a red flag
- The difference between being with your feelings versus chasing a particular feeling
- Why real processing can't be forced or scheduled on demand
- How to recognize when your mind is "hunting for problems to solve"
Processing vs. Ruminating: Real processing involves experiencing emotions from multiple perspectives and naturally leads somewhere. Anxious thinking loops from a single anxious viewpoint, chasing certainty or relief that never comes.
The Mirage Effect: Like chasing an oasis in the desert, compulsive thinking promises relief that always stays just out of reach.
Beyond the Urgent: If thinking through something feels urgent or mandatory right now, it's likely anxiety rather than processing.
Community Contributions In This Episode:
- Dental Victory (15:50): A listener shares how she conquered dental anxiety and gave herself full credit for the win
- Double Challenge (29:15): Managing husband's travel anxiety while attending a family party - and having a panic attack but staying anyway
- Panic Attack Breakthrough (32:30): Learning to let panic attacks run their course instead of fleeing to safety
Timestamps
- 02:00 - Listener question: When does processing become anxious looping?
- 05:20 - Josh explains the mechanics of OCD triggers after shocking events
- 09:15 - Drew on narrative therapy and finding meaning versus chasing feelings
- 13:00 - The misuse of "doing mode" - when thinking becomes a compulsion
- 18:30 - Why Craig the Critic might tell you to keep "processing"
- 21:00 - Josh's personal example of organic grief processing
- 26:10 - Signs of unprocessed emotions versus anxious rumination
- 27:30 - Why urgency is often a sign it's anxiety, not processing
True emotional processing happens organically and involves being with difficult feelings without trying to fix them. When "processing" feels urgent, repetitive, or like chasing relief, it's likely anxious thinking in disguise. The goal isn't to process everything immediately, but to allow natural emotional experiences while living your life.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | We've got to process, processing emotions, you have to process this, got to stop the process, |
| 0:05.9 | got to go to therapy to process this, but sometimes processing isn't processing in our context. |
| 0:10.8 | I've noticed when a shocking event happens, but in the days following it, I'll play this event |
| 0:16.4 | and all the conversations surrounding the event just on a loop in my brain over and over and over again. |
| 0:21.7 | I can't seem to get out of playing it on a loop. |
| 0:24.4 | You don't want to repress and ignore because that wouldn't be processing, |
| 0:27.7 | but also sitting there and going over and over and over something in your head. |
| 0:31.7 | Is that processing? |
| 0:33.2 | I used to think this was like a way of processing, |
| 0:35.7 | something that's happened that can be like a shocking or traumatic event. |
| 0:39.1 | But now I'm starting to think it's just maybe an OCD cycle where my mind's getting stuck on a loop. |
| 0:44.8 | What am I trying to accomplish when I looped through this again and again and again and again? |
| 0:53.7 | Welcome to Disordered. This is episode 119 of the podcast entitled, Am I Processing, or Am I Just Thinking Anxiously? |
| 1:00.8 | I'm Drew Linzalata, one of the co-hosts of Disordered. I am a therapist practicing in New York in the area of anxiety and anxiety disorders, former sufferer of the very problems we talk about in this podcast for many years |
| 1:10.9 | in my life on and off, but better now, three-time author on the topic, podcaster, social media |
| 1:15.7 | dude, guy with a couple of expensive mics, and I'm proud to be here today with my esteemed |
| 1:20.2 | co-host. |
| 1:21.4 | Hi, everyone. |
| 1:22.0 | I'm Joshua Fletcher, also known as Anxiety Josh. |
| 1:24.8 | I'm a psychotherapist and author based in Manchester in the UK, |
| 1:28.9 | specialize in anxiety and anxiety disorders, blending personal experience with professional insights, |
| 1:35.6 | and I really enjoy co-hosting this podcast. |
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