This is John Bachelor, conversation with retired Air Force General Blaine Holt about the expectation

of conflict with China in these next years.

He refers to General Mike Minahan of Air Mobility Command, who has

said in the past, is written in the past, that 2025 looks to be a risky date for a conflict with China, what is to be done, what drives

this.

Blaine has thoughts about what's driving China and why the crumbling of the Chinese economic model

there was never going to be stable is a war warning.

Here's General Blaine Holt, the United States Air Force retired, commenting on

thoughts about the conflict that comes out of economic collapse. More of this tonight.

I wish that we could extend, as a nation vote to extend General Minahan and not allow him to retire next month,

but it does appear that he is going to go into retirement full

disclosure he's a friend of mine but he's the most clear-eyed about the

earliest that we could start to see war.

And you both cover World War II history so beautifully, so I'm not going to embarrass myself

by trying to jump into the pit with you, but I will remind our listeners that economic calamity creates scarcity and that's what the Great Depression was and scarcity is what creates a rush for resources and the rush for resources is where the friction for warfare comes up.

We see those types of things and have seen those types of things happening here.

China has been on a steady decline and an financial implosion that looks like it's about to spark a commercial

real estate crisis that will be felt in every single corner of the globe.

We're here seeing a market meltdown. We don't know if that's going to lead to something more systemic and sustained.

But what you're essentially looking at from an economic perspective

is the kerosene that you would dump on a fire called the Middle East

that could spread in all directions of the globe and take us to the same place we got to in 1939.

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