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This is John Batchel, a conversation with colleague General Blaine Holt,

United States Air Force, retired, about intellectual property theft

and how the Air Force, and by analogy the Space Force, deal with it.

This conversation was sparked by speculation at Bloomberg and other

reporting instances that the Chinese Deep Seek AI program is not a product of invention, but in some

fashion borrowing from intellectual property owned by others.

What does the Air Force do about the common assumption that not only do the Chinese spy digitally

but in person? Here's Blaine Holt to describe what is and what must be done in order to protect

the United States and its allies.

More of this tonight.

So the Air Force really does need to rethink their policing of IP theft.

They live in stovepipes.

And I've told you before, our procurement system is horribly broken and bureaucratically dysfunctional.

And that's how the Chinese use that against us.

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