Book your ticket to happiness with Sun Express Airlines. This is John Batcheter, conversation with my colleague Harry Siegel of the city an online journal about the decline in

population of New York City since the census of 2020 and certainly since the pandemic.

The overall number is a decline of more than half a

million. The city was on a course to burst at the seams and then and now more New Yorkers are

leaving post-pandemic.

Harry breaks the numbers down and points to a number of ongoing concerns such as

is it being counted fairly given the number of migrants have come in in the last year?

And what about the school system swelling with migrant children and the train thing?

Is Harry referring to another shooting in the New York City subway the ninth this year

compared to one last year and that being a discouragement for people to return to the city and where are they leaving also of

interest for Harry Seagull the city and also a columnist at the New York Daily News

Hey John so New York's population was swelling. It seemed like it could even reach 9 million

when the last census was done in 2020 and it's been shrinking since. So these new census numbers show a

drop of 78,000 people basically in in 2023, bringing us back down to about 8 and a quarter million.

After losing 125,000 in 2022, the city is arguing about this number and there is reasons to, you know, a lot of

aid is predicated, federal aid is predicated on population numbers and they're saying that this is

under counting migrants who not so incidentally are migrant enrollment is

what's keeping the public school population from continued decline at this point.

So, you know, the census moves slowly and thoroughly and eventually will get to some answer in

accounting for who's right about that and what we think the final number is but

there's no doubt that a lot of established New Yorkers, more established New Yorkers are leaving than coming.

And that's not a good thing and it relates to this train thing and everything else in that everyone is trying to restore

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