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PREVIEW: ##TERRAPOWER: #PLUTONIUM: Conversation with colleague Henry sokol ski of NPEC re fast breeder reactors that make plutonium for bomb-making -- and the business plan by Bill Gates of MSFT, investing in a company, TerraPower, to export a small vers

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 15 March 2024

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW: ##TERRAPOWER: #PLUTONIUM: Conversation with colleague Henry sokol ski of NPEC re fast breeder reactors that make plutonium for bomb-making -- and the business plan by Bill Gates of MSFT, investing in a company, TerraPower, to export a small version of a fast breeder that is not ready to create plutonium -- but can be adjusted. More later.

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0:00.0

This is John Batchelor, conversation with my colleague Henry Sikalski of the Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center

0:07.0

about what is called a breeder reactor, a fast breeder reactor, old technology.

0:12.0

Importantly, if the fuel going into it is enriched uranium,

0:16.3

H.E.U. It produces plutonium, a plethora of plutonium, for bomb making. The news is that Russ Adam in Russia is building three of

0:27.2

these for the People's Republic of China. The fresh information is that Bill Gates

0:32.2

of Microsoft Fame has invested in a company called Terra Power that is building small versions of what can be easily called a breeder reactor. We're told that the breeder reactor small version,

0:47.8

terra power version is not for making bombs. However, Henry Sikalski identifies what the problem can be before they

0:57.2

export them to the world, especially the Middle East. Here's Henry Sikalski on a fast breeder reactor built in a modular form by Terra Power, a company dominated by Bill Gates and what can happen to the terror power design.

1:13.9

Terror power is a firm that Mr Gates bought and owns

1:21.1

that has a design, a fast breeder reactor design, which was called the PRISM, which is based

1:30.0

originally on a federal system called the experimental breeder reactor 2, EBR 2, and these

1:39.7

fast reactors have been modified by Terra Power to be so they don't produce a surplus of plutonium

1:48.8

weapons, super weapons, great plutonium. But they can be altered to do that pretty quickly. And he has

1:56.7

managed, even though he is one of the richest people in the world, he needed

2:01.4

apparently two billion dollars in grants from the Department of Energy to

2:06.2

promote the construction of a plant in Wyoming.

2:10.9

And this has been delayed. You know, we'll see if it ever gets built, but they're spending money.

2:18.0

And he anticipates exporting hundreds of these things he said because he's struck up a deal with

2:27.8

the United Arab Emirates to help promote foreign sales. Now with the mind boggles as to where these things might be built

2:36.3

if they ever are.

2:37.8

If the UAE is a sales agent, could be the Middle East. Well, you know, these things are bomb-starter

2:46.1

kids to say the least. More of this later.

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