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love to use. This is John Batchel, conversation with a good colleague, Gene Marks, about

health care costs for small business, higher and higher and higher.

Gene has some ideas, all directions.

There's Gene Marks on the health care costs going up 24, 25, 26, indefinitely.

More of this tonight.

I mean, in 2024, there was a 9% increase.

In 2025, there was a 9% increase.

Now, in 2026, I'm hearing like another 6.5% to 9% increase, according to all the people

that cover health care.

It is health care costs continue to go up, and it continues to be, you know, an issue.

Again, people say that in this bill, you know, the cut be, you know, an issue. Again, people say that in this bill, you know,

the cut to, you know, health benefits to certain people is going to weigh heavy, you know,

that, you know, hospitals are going to have to make up for the difference. They're going to have to

increase their prices. The insurance companies are going to have to cover that. Insurance companies I'm seeing now are starting to cover more and more the weight loss drugs,

which are great, but they're expensive as well.

So, you know, if you're a small employer, it's getting harder and harder to provide

health care for your employees, and it's an essential benefit.

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