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Visit sumup.co.uk to learn more. This is John Bachelor. Ionic fluid. A conversation with Professor Sarah Seeger of

MIT, an astrophysicist, a planetary scientist, a physicist who discovers things in labs.

And in this instance, Professor Seeger describes the

discovery by a colleague of hers of ionic fluid, an accidental discovery that may lead to

revelations about life on other planets or may lead us in a new direction entirely for the

search for something organic besides us in the cosmos.

Here's the professor to describe the accidental discovery and the mystery of it all.

Ionic fluid, not water, ionic fluid.

More of this later tonight at Hotel Mars with David Livingston.

Here's the professor.

You know, we could have had a hypothesis about the potential formation of this ionic liquid,

but in fact, my postdoc, Ratchan Agrival, who's a professor in India now, actually discovered

this by accident.

We are actually,

believe it or not, trying to send space missions to Venus to find signs of life or life itself in the Venus clouds. That is a whole other topic. But one thing we need to do on Venus is to collect

the cloud particles and condense them so we could collect a whole bunch of cloud

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