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the Long War Journal, asking Bill to describe the terrain that the report now is hundreds dead

between Pakistan Army and the Taliban's army along this line between the two countries.

Afghanistan and Pakistan. Bill also adds a piece of history about the Durand line, not recognized.

Fighting in the hilly country, desert country, strange foreign country, alien world country, between Pakistan and

their nominal neighbor ally, Afghanistan.

More of this tonight.

I think that's pretty accurate.

The area, it's difficult to say, and it varies from area to area.

It's, you know, look, it's mountainous in some areas, deserts in some areas.

It's expansive, hundreds upon hundreds of miles.

But each side has set up border outposts along the region.

I think the India-Pakistan border is probably more established than the Afghan-Pakistan border.

And keep in mind, the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistani Taliban, they don't recognize that Durand line, that line, that border

between Afghanistan and Pakistan. That's a whole other reason for the, for the tensions between

the two. So sometimes the locations of these outposts shift depending on local circumstances.