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PREVIEW: COLLEAGUE CHRIS RIEGEL COMMENTS ON THE RISKS AND REWARDS OF HIRING A CHINESE NATIONAL TO WORK ON OR HAVE ACCESS TO PROPRIETARY DATA. MORE LATER.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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PREVIEW: COLLEAGUE CHRIS RIEGEL COMMENTS ON THE RISKS AND REWARDS OF HIRING A CHINESE NATIONAL TO WORK ON OR HAVE ACCESS TO PROPRIETARY DATA. MORE LATER.
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0:00.0

This is John Batchel, colleague Chris Regal, the order from the State Department, Mr. Rubio,

0:06.7

that all Chinese national students in America, STEM especially, will have their visas reviewed

0:12.9

pending deportation or asked to exit, and others will not be permitted in.

0:28.4

It's very unclear lines right now, but the intention is to turn down the Chinese theft that is said by the FBI to be underway for years.

0:34.0

Chris poses what has gained, what is lost from losing a Chinese national on your staff.

0:40.4

Here's Chris Regal on the risks and possibilities of an open society versus a surveillance society,

0:48.9

which is the People's Republic of China.

0:51.5

Much more of this tonight.

0:52.9

Chinese citizens, Chinese nationals, in many cases

0:56.6

are very well regarded, great researchers, very hard workers, very beneficial to many of the

1:05.7

companies they serve. The question for American and Western companies is where is that line and where is the risk profile to say having a very talented Chinese member of the staff or member of the team in adding benefit to the company, but also if that person ever goes back to China is ever requested by the Ministry of State Security in China to take an

1:29.4

intellectual property with them.

1:30.5

It's a very tricky problem.

1:32.3

In some categories, that's easily banned.

1:35.5

In other categories, it really comes to, are we better as an open society to bring in

1:41.1

students, have them see freedom and opportunity and take that back with them to China,

1:46.6

or are they simply taking back our IP?

1:49.3

So a challenge without a really great answer, to be honest.

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