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Day passes start from just 109 pounds. Book now at the podcast show London.com. This is John Paster, conversation with Bob Zimmerman, who watches

the spaceports popping up all around the globe. Most recent example Bob gives is Malaysia, two different states

in Malaysia. This is a small country, island archipelagos, in the southwest Pacific, above Australia.

Two different states of Malaysia are bidding for the right to build a spaceport, working with China.

Spaceports in Europe, spaceports in the Middle East, spaceports in the far, between the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean.

Why? Of course, the profit motive. At the same time, it's romance. Going to Malaysia to launch to,

and it'll attract companies with monetary value. It'll attract adventures. It'll attract private

business. Space business is the new shipping business. It is the new dirigible business.

It's all wonderful.

Bob Zimmerman describes, and to give it some drama, there's a twist at the end about China.

Here's Bob.

More of this tonight.

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