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*PREVIEW* Boris/Off: Attack of the Clones feat. Annie Kelly

TRASHFUTURE

TRASHFUTURE

Comedy

4.6851 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2022

⏱️ 11 minutes

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We speak with Q Anon Anonymous U.K. correspondent Annie Kelly about how, far from being fringe whackos, the lumpen petit bourgeois wingnuts that meet on telegram and gather outside Parliament are central to the right wing project. Also, we read Starmer’s baffling paean to NATO. Get the whole episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62691536 *LIVE SHOW ALERT* We will be doing a live show in London on Wednesday, March 2. Get your tickets here! https://www.designmynight.com/london/whats-on/comedy/trashfuture-live-pre-election-christmas-spectacular *MILO ALERT* Milo has a bunch of live shows this month in both London and Prague. Check them out here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-show *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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0:00.0

What I actually want to talk about mostly is the way in which these people organize themselves in ways that seem, I think, antagonistic to the state, right?

0:26.4

But I want to talk about the way in which they're actually, in which the sort of the common sense view is that these guys are right wing nuts and there are there are non-wing nut right-wingers,

0:38.7

and that it's possible for the conservative movement to become less wing-nut if the non-wing

0:44.9

nuts would simply denounce the wing-nuts. And secondly, that this is a very top-down view

0:49.0

that suggests that, well, when Boris Johnson said in the dispatch box that, like, Starmer was soft on Saville,

0:56.4

that this was taken as a kind of permission for the rest of the, you know, what are considered

1:02.7

to be the Hoy-Polloy by the journalists who are actually often like business owners or whatever

1:06.7

to then, like, you know, protest him more vigorously, use this against him, and so on and so on, right?

1:14.9

It's a very Westminster-centric columnist view, and you see it coming up again and again and again.

1:21.1

And Annie, I wanted to know if you could, we've talked about, like, the difference between this and sort of what we tend to think.

1:26.0

I wanted to know how you respond to

1:27.7

this top-down view. Yeah, I mean, so it was a kind of difficult, difficult thing to approach,

1:35.6

I guess, as a researcher, when Stama was harassed by people shouting, among other things,

1:41.5

pedophile protector at him. Because, I mean, lots of people were saying, you know, yeah, these people are doing Johnson's bidding.

1:51.4

You know, this all happened because of Johnson.

1:54.1

And, you know, on a factual level, that's kind of not true.

1:57.2

Like, they were there outside Parliament.

2:00.0

They were, you know, any politician that they

2:02.1

recognized that they ran into, they would have harassed and probably shouted very similar

2:07.4

things. I've been at rallies where they've shouted those things about Matt Hancock, for example.

2:13.1

Like, you know, it's, it's really, it's really non-discriminate in that sense.

2:19.8

Having said that, you know, I do certainly think that they were emboldened by the fact that this had this kind of meme of theirs, essentially, which had, you know, up until then, been kind of relegated to a very select part of the network.

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