Hello and welcome to Trash Future, the show that only lets Canadian people host it.

I do want to say, like, on the outside, I do have, I may not be Riley Canadian, but I do

have a Canadian passport, and therefore I am, like, claiming those rights.

Yeah, you might kind of wonder, why is Hussein speaking for this, like, on this episode?

He rarely speaks on episodes at all.

And the reason is that we have a very special episode today.

We are talking about a recent podcast that came out produced by

Serial and the New York Times. It is called The Trojan Horse Affair. You might have seen me

tweeting about it a bunch and I may have been mad online doing it. I am joined by, I'm joined

by Nate who is fascinated with all things Britain. And it's true. Yeah, I thought like you'd be a kind of good guy to like, I thought like,

you know, your brain hasn't been broken enough learning British facts.

So I thought, okay, well, why don't, why don't you like learn about bizarre local politics and

how it's used and leverage to harm minority groups?

But you also brought on some other figures from the Trojan Horse affair. Yeah, we do have

some guests as well. We actually do have the host of the podcast with us and we're very lucky to have

him, Humza Syed and Brian Reid. Yeah, you may, you may have heard Brian Reid on S-Town and other

like This American Life podcast. You may have only heard Hamza on this podcast because it's the first time, it's like his first major project and it's a really, really good project and we'll

kind of get into that in a bit. I'll kind of say like on the offset that the reason why I wanted

to do this was because, and the reason why this podcast kind of resonated with me was extremely

personal, not just because I am like a practicing Muslim, but also because I was a mainstream media

journalist during the time that like Trojan Horse was this big thing. For people who don't know

about this and we'll kind of get into the like the kind of details of the podcast itself, but

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