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This is John Batchelor, conversation with the author Gary Rivlin,

his new book, AI Valley, about the artificial intelligence bots, now being invented across the land, and to monetize those bots. One particular pie has the skill set taught to it

to be sympathetic to the human respondent and in general have good manners.

Here, Gary takes us into how they teach the bot pie to say thank you and to flatter you

and how the bot pie has other uses, such as therapy.

Is Gary Rivlin, much more of this tonight, the second hour of my conversation with

AI Valley author Gary Rivlin, doesn't know absolutely everything.

And, you know, it's interesting that we talked about the training of these models.

A key element is the fine-tuning, where you teach it basically like you don't always have to say

you don't have to be a know-it-all you know saying i don't know is is an important trait for a bot but

they had to really treat it teach it everything how to have a conversation how to synthesize all that all

that was done by humans fine-tuning these models. Some of the more interesting stuff in writing this book was

spending time with the folks at inflection. They have what they call personality engineers. Obviously,

a bot. Can't have a personality. But they wanted to give it trace, like, be, be kind, don't be rude.

And so they kind of show them good examples and bad examples. And over time, made Pi able to say,

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