This is John Batchel, a conversation with my colleagues Bill Rajo and Caleb Weiss of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

Here Caleb describes something striking that Ukraine's special forces, GRU, operating in Sudan, in the Civil War in Sudan.

Why? Against the Russian mercenaries, the former Wagner

Group now called the Africa Corps, using drones, suicide drones. Here's Caleb to describe the

fantastic. The war in Ukraine continues in the Nal River Valley in Sudan, which is ripped apart by a civil war.

More of this tonight.

Yeah, so the Ukraine-G-RU, the Intel Special Forces are inside Ukraine or inside Sudan, excuse me,

and they are basically doing drone raids or sort of assassination campaigns to target Wagner forces.

You know, Wagner and especially Russia, you know, for a long time did support the RSF, the rapid support forces, although that support may be waning in favor of Russia supporting the SAF,

but for Ukraine, basically, they're there, nominally with the SAF, but really to go after

Wagner forces.

So there's been a few videos released by Ukraine to show suicide drone attacks against Wagner forces. So there's been a few videos released by Ukraine to show, you know,

suicide drone attacks against Wagner forces.