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Michael and Us

PREVIEW - #682 - Some Footage Is More Equal Than Others

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Society & Culture

4.5697 Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2026

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Raoul Peck's new documentary ORWELL: 2+2=5 (2025) seeks to show how George Orwell's warnings from the past are being made reality today. The results are less than the sum of their parts. PLUS: We note the passing of Norman Podhoretz. PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/147746762

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0:00.0

it's Raul Peck's Orwell 2 plus 2 equals 5, a brand new documentary. Raul Peck may be familiar to some

0:07.3

listeners for his recent film, I Am Not Your Negro, about James Baldwin, which was an art house

0:12.9

hit during the first Trump term. If you've seen that film, you'll know something of Raul Peck's

0:17.8

style. He makes free-flowing essay films, but ones that are straddled somewhere

0:23.2

between the poetic and the didactic. Heavy use of stock footage and found footage. In fact, I think

0:29.6

this film, Orwell 2 plus 2 equals 5, I think it's pretty much all found footage. I don't know if there's

0:35.0

anything that's newly shot for it. There's a lot of

0:37.9

footage of various adaptations of Orwell's 1984, footage of films about Orwell, as well as a lot

0:44.8

of news footage, a lot of the footage you've been seeing on your phone for the last 10 years,

0:49.6

interspersed with quotes from George Orwell. Spiritually, the film begins in 1946 when Orwell sets out to the

0:56.9

island of Jura to write 1984. As I said, we see scenes from adaptations of the book. We hear

1:04.1

excerpts from his diary while he's writing it, as well as bits and pieces of other Orwell writing.

1:09.8

The film is narrated by Damian Lewis in character

1:12.8

as Orwell. We also hear much about Orwell's life, but the Orwell of it all is sprinkled between, yeah, a kind of

1:20.8

fantasia, a kind of endless stream of footage, as well as the things that were relevant in Orwell's own lifetime. We see a lot

1:28.8

of goose-stepping Nazis. We see a lot of Soviet communists. And the thesis is not a million miles

1:35.2

removed from the John Meacham documentary that we talked about recently, which is everything you're

1:41.3

seeing now has precedent. Actually, as I say that, I realize there are kind of two

1:46.0

theses to this movie. One of them is that Orwell was uncannily prescient. Everything he predicted in

1:52.8

1984 has come true now. And then the other thesis is, this has always been around. Orwell was

1:58.8

just reacting to what was happening in the half

2:01.2

century up to the publication of that book, and we're just seeing history repeat itself. I'm very

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