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Michael and Us

PREVIEW - #233 - Finally... The Fight Club Episode

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2021

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

PATREON EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/51068447 How has it taken this long? We finally discuss David Fincher's FIGHT CLUB (1999) and its vision of consumerism, masculinity, and late '90s America. And of course we go over how the past 21 years have amplified/distorted/weakened/possibly even strengthened the experience of watching this dorm-room staple. PLUS: thoughts on Labour's disastrous performance in the 2021 U.K. local elections, and horrible tales what REALLY happened to the Three Stooges.

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0:00.0

Well, finally on this podcast, we tackle one of the defining political films of the end of history.

0:07.5

I'm going to stop.

0:08.8

The first rule of Michael and us is every movie is the end of history.

0:13.0

Now, I'd also like to read briefly from an article by Mr. Roger Ebert called A Seed in the Balky with Bill Clinton.

0:20.0

This is from February 3rd, 2000. Towards the very

0:23.5

end of Bill Clinton's presidency, Ebert and him got together in the White House to have a discussion

0:29.3

about some recent movies. The president is actually quite a cinephile. I don't know if you know that.

0:35.0

Imagine me to fly on the wall in that conversation. Think of the things you'd learn. I mean, you can be because there is video footage of it

0:42.0

that you can look up on YouTube right now. And there's also Ebert's article, which I'm going to quote

0:46.0

from now. So Clinton enjoyed Three Kings by David O. Russell. He enjoyed American Beauty.

0:52.2

Quoting from Ebert, Clinton also found David Fincher's

0:55.9

Fight Club, Last Fall's anti-consumerist movie with Brad Pitt and Edward Norton, quote,

1:01.2

Quite Good, unquote. The film began with an attack on prosperity. That's very eloquent.

1:07.7

The film began with an attack on prosperity, which its heroes found so empty that they founded secret clubs where they could seek meaning in their lives by beating one another up.

1:17.4

Norton and Pitt played their roles really well, Clinton said, and Helena Bonham Carter was a very compelling figure in it.

1:24.1

I'm just resisting the urge to make a joke about Bill Clinton and secret

1:27.5

clubs. But continuing from the article, but it was, quote, a little too nihilist, unquote,

1:36.3

for him, Clinton said. It's simply not true that the material advances we've had are inherently

1:41.8

bad or empty. They give you the power to define your life more.

1:45.6

Oh, man.

1:46.4

And I don't, and I don't mean just for rich people.

1:49.7

I mean people who have a decent middle class life.

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