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Take a free test drive at Oracle.com slash bandwidth. This is a moment with my good friend Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang. For many years, Gordon and I have carefully looked at the story of the People's

Republic of China and you're looking at a tyranny where the people are suffering. However, now and again it's needed to step back from China,

step back from East Asia, step back from Eurasia, what is called the big picture,

and ask, have we seen this pattern before and I do not

mean tyranny in the People's Republic I mean small wars for example

1904 the Russo-Japanese War ending in a negotiation in America for all things.

The Italo-Turkish War, Italy attacking the Ottoman Empire in 1911.

The Balkan Wars, twice, 1912 and 1913, Serbia, Bulgaria, its age, its neighbors taking on the Ottoman Empire, disruption in the Balkans.

And then 1914, we all remember that because of the start of the first war. However, what contributed to it was small

wars invariably attached themselves to great powers, suppliers or arbiters or allies and those great powers get pulled into small wars and then bump elbows with the other great powers.

That's what happened in the first war. It started in the Balkans and then turned into an attack along the Belgian French frontier and that's where the front line stayed for the horrors of the next four years.

So Gordon, I submit all that, not as a prediction of the future,

but it's to say how small wars contribute to the larger chaos. You have something important to say about

deliberate policy of chaos in Beijing. Please explain Gordon.

I think that Cijun Ping who reveres Madzatong, has taken two pages out of Mao's peasant

movement playbook.

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