This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

I welcome Gregory Copley, editor and publisher of Defense and Foreign Affairs, the author of the new book, Noble State, in praise of monarchy. We will come to the monarch himself, Charles III,

in Canada, but we begin with a catastrophe. June 4th, 1989, now known as the Tiananmen Square

protests. What happened was entirely avoidable. The rising up spontaneously of young people in Beijing,

but also outside, thinking the whole world was watching. Well, it was because there had been

previously days and days of yearning for freedom following the fall of the Soviet Union and the expectation that it was

possible for China also to transform itself. This is 1989. The Soviet Union ends in 1991,

but there was great anxiety in the world because of Gorbachev's changes, his reform so-called.

China heard that and the people responded accordingly until, Gregory, a very good evening to you.

The farther we get away from Tiananmen Square, the more it seems like heaven's judgment on the

Chinese Communist Party.

Deng Xiaoping ordered in the bully boys and the tanks, and there was a massacre.

It's still banned to talk about Tiananmen Square on Chinese media.

Anywhere in the world is mentioned, you're either going to be bullied, ignored, or harassed by the regime.

Why are they so frightened of an event that

everybody knows about? Good evening to you. Good evening, John. Well, they have to be frightened

about it because the situation is recurring now. The massive, ongoing city-by-city demonstrations

against the Communist Party, against Xi Jinping, against the economic conditions

of the day, the lack of freedom and the like, these are all rising up again to threaten

the Communist Party.

Deng Xiaoping understood that he had to suppress this dramatically on June the 4th, 89, And what he then did, of course, was to ensure

that some flower of hope, if you like, was granted to the Chinese population in that they

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