This is CBS Eye in the World. I'm John Batch, the competition with the People's Republic

of China and other bad actors aligned with Beijing includes some high-end technology

terminology, and I welcome Mark Montgomery of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

He's a senior director of the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation, learning from

Mark, publishing at the Hill, that there is a particular kind of technology that you

need to conquer to understand where we are in this competition. It's called Risk 5, an

open-source chip design architecture that can serve a variety of end-use applications.

Admiral, a very good evening to you. Thank you for this. I get lost in your explanation.

What does Risk 5 do and what does it mean to be open-source? Good evening to you.

Thanks. It's a real pleasure to be here, John. Look, this is a complicated issue, as are

almost all these kind of emerging technology export control issues. Risk 5 is an open-source

chip design architecture. It is a way of designing chips shared information between different

program writers and designers and architects that allow us a sharing of increasingly

complex blueprints and diagrams and designs for chips. These chips can have any sort of

application. It's certainly dual, but we would call dual use. They can drive artificial

intelligence. They can be used in autonomous systems like drones. They can be used in

surveillance technology. They can be eventually integrated into weapon systems. Really,

as whole enterprise, our legitimate attempts at export controls and outbound investment

screening in order to maintain a fair, more competitive environment with China for both

our companies in a non-military realm and also to protect our security in the military

realm, which should not be providing the tools which an adversary can use to build the

weapons to defeat us. An example of that is we've worked hard with the Dutch companies

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