This is CBSI on the World.

I'm John Batsuit, Gordon Chang at Gordon Cheat Chang, summit talk, summit tree, once upon

a time in the 20th century.

This was the way to swing between Washington and Moscow, now Washington and Beijing, headline

in the Wall Street Journal.

U.S., China talks, gain momentum, paving way for Xi Biden summit, governments discuss

Washington and goes to subhead, governments discuss Washington visits by a senior Chinese

economic policy official and the foreign minister.

I welcome Jonathan Ward, he is the author of the decisive decade, American Grand Strategy

for Triumph over China.

Certainly, summits are Grand Strategy.

Jonathan, I have another headline, a little fresher than the one about Xi and Biden meeting.

This is South China Morning Post, which we are aware is semi-official from Beijing.

Asking a question, could fear of embarrassment and China's domestic woes keep Xi Jinping

away from APEC summit, APEC is the summit in the United States and California, where we

anticipate it is possible for Mr. Biden and Mr. Xi to speak of the enmity that has

developed between the nations.

Jonathan, your opinion of summit tree, this summit tree, is it significant, is it a turn

in the road, or how do you see this, Mr. decisive decade?

Good evening to you, Jonathan.

Good evening, Jonathan, great to be with you again.

Look, I think summit tree is incredibly important in history as we've seen throughout the

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