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Poverty Amid Plenty / Liz Theoharis

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4.9937 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2023

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Theologian, ordained minister, and anti-poverty activist Liz Theoharis is on to discuss her TomDispatch articles "Poverty Amid Plenty' and "Making it in a Poor World". Liz is Co-chair of the Poor People’s Campaign: A National Call for Moral Revival and director of the Kairos Center for Religions, Rights and Social Justice at Union Theological Seminary in New York City. She is the author of, "Always With Us? What Jesus Really Said About the Poor," and, "We Cry Justice: Reading the Bible with the Poor People’s Campaign." https://tomdispatch.com/poverty-amid-plenty/ This episode also features this week's Hangover Cure and a Past Inside the Present from Sebastian Wuepper, PhD.

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0:00.0

The war is going to be? Victor! This is hell.

0:33.0

hell. Yes. Is hell.

0:34.0

All right, then.

0:35.0

Behind every great fortune lies a great crime.

0:43.8

And in today's case, crimes, as in plural,

0:46.6

because this is hell.

0:49.2

And the great crimes behind today's fortune are crimes we sadly tolerate every day.

0:56.0

crimes that fit the definition of crimes against humanity,

0:59.0

but are also crimes against our own humanity,

1:01.0

as both put our beliefs in direct conflict with our actions.

1:04.8

Are the crimes of poverty and inequality? Those are the crimes we suffer from on a daily basis.

1:14.0

Yes, the effects of poverty include acts that would fall within how the Rome Statute of the

1:19.4

International Criminal Court defines crimes against humanity.

1:24.3

We witness the effects of the great wealth disproportionately accumulated by the wealthiest,

1:29.8

1% and yes, 1 tenth of 1% the suffering it causes has become such a part of our daily reality

1:36.7

that at times we no longer even notice it or we do our best not to as some sort of defense mechanism against recognizing the pain of poverty

1:47.0

and those who benefit from profit and make great fortunes from inflicting that pain.

1:53.0

All with the help of a supposedly democratic government here in the United States that is anything

1:57.0

but. But we all know, or so we are told, we all know that you cannot completely end poverty, or make it so nobody is poor because

2:05.1

that's completely unaffordable a utopian fantasy that even if we could figure out

2:10.3

how to do it we simply don't have the resources to make certain nobody is living in poverty.

2:16.6

But as our guest today argues, the belief that we cannot end poverty is built on a foundation

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